The local environmental lobby's draft "road map to a desert smart town" can be seen a wish list for the Federal elections, it but goes well beyond that focus – and could do with a robust reality check. In 2033 Alice Springs runs on 100% renewable energy? A local horticultural industry which supplies 50% of local fresh produce needs? And all that whilst not increasing water use beyond the current level? The Arid Lands Environment Centre's Jimmy Cocking (pictured at right with environmentalist and science journalist Tanya Ha at Friday's CoolMob gala dinner) and Mr McClean spoke with Alice Springs News Online editor ERWIN CHLANDA.